Rewrite of first page...

I've been struggling to keep my pace going, and yet, get the essentials down. Give it a read if you will, and let me know what works or doesn’t work.


On a side note, I have determined to do what it takes, and never give up on my dream… even if it takes the rest of my life. I thank everyone who has been a part of my development. I hope it isn’t too much to read, thx either way.

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I am on the verge of giving up…

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The more I try and learn proper grammar, and storytelling. The more I feel it’s almost impossible for me. It is a hard thing to realize your dream, just might be, impossible to achieve.

I guess I have been living in denial this whole time. I just kept telling myself if I continue to write and try to learn basic grammar through videos and books, it would work out in the end… so far, I think I just might be too much to accomplish.

I wish the technical side of writing would come as natural to me as coming up with the stories has been.

I’ve finished my 98k word novel, and began the revising part, but now, it might find its way into the trash forever.

It just feels to daunting. I would give anything to go back and pay attention in school, instead of partying and ditching classes all the time.

I just hope my mind changes in the next few days.

Thx for stopping by.

What to post?

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I have been pondering what drives me to choose a book when I am looking through my local book store. I have condensed my findings to three key points…

Now disregarding the books from authors I like or the books other people have suggested I read, I have chosen these three points.

1: I pick books by the cover… if I hate the cover I won't even read the blurb.

2: If the cover strikes me and I love the story idea… hence love the blurb, I will then move onto three.

3: Open the book in the middle and read several pages; if the author can make me like his writing in the middle of the book then I know it is for me…

Now what makes you buy a new book from an author unknown to you?

Thx for any comment you might leave and thx for stopping by.
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Sorry been out of the loop.

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The more I see my story come together, I believe my book fits between alternate history and medieval fantasy.

Should I take great effort to make my book fit into one genre, or let it be what it is?

When you write do you even consider what genre your work is geared towards, or do you let the story fit whatever genre it might fall into after completion?

Thanks for stopping by and any comment you might leave.

On a side not I haven’t had internet accesses lately and apologize for not being around, hopefully I have caught up on all your blogs.

Hung up...

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I’ve been hung up on something… I don’t even know what yet.

I sit and stare at my screen but can’t write a word.

The story is one chapter away from being finished, yet something isn’t clicking in my head. I am hoping it will come together soon, but I really don’t know what the problem is.

I guess it’s a form of writers block—my brain is trying to work something out subconsciously I guess.

I thought I knew what I wanted to write about until I begin to write. I write a paragraph… erase it, write another erase it. I do this over and over until I sit motionless staring at a blank screen.

I really don’t know what I am trying to ask, or even what I am trying to accomplish by this post.

I guess in a way it helps to get it out.

Thx for stopping by, and good luck with your WIP.

What does it mean to be "Satisfied"

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At what point do you except your writing for what it is… how can you be happy enough to call a manuscript complete?


I wish I knew, and hope someday I will know.

I’ve been out of town without internet access, so I hope I’ve caught up with all your blogs.

The more I look back on what I’ve done the more I see the writer I was rather than who I am or think I am.

I can’t move on and I can’t seem to find happiness in what I am doing, so all I can do is keep moving forward until I am.

What about you, how is it going and how do you find the “good” in what you write.

Any tricks, suggestion or any other comment you leave will not fall on deaf ears.

Thx

Compare

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Compare... do you ever compare a good book to your own, and it makes you feel hopeless, like everything you have done pales in comparison, like you should try and make it grander, bigger, better just to make your book fit in.



I try and not do this, but like most authors I find it nearly impossible.


Every time a character sticks with me after reading a particular book, I find myself wishing readers of my book will look at my chars this way.


Learning to be ME is becoming the biggest obstacle of all during the process of becoming a writer.


Trying to write with my own voice while growing from others authors who inspire me-and yet not letting those voices control mine is a strange place to be.


What do you think?


Thx for any comment you might

So, how is everyone doing?

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How is your WIP going?

How’s life?

My WIP is going along (slowly) but at least is going. If everything works out as I predict I should be wrapped up with the first draft (my 5th first draft) the reason I call it a first draft instead of revision, is because of the amount of changes.

I find my dialog and characters are good, far better than I would have thought. My ability to narrate and write well constructed sentences so it’s not so “herky-jerky” for the reader, is my down fall.

The problem is my attempt to fix these issues, every time it seems worse than when I started… so I’m moving on to completion and will seek help from the Pro (Shakespeare) when I’m done.

Thx for any comment you might leave.

Best of luck to you all… lord knows I need it.

Wish for time and piss it away.

Sorry been away from a comp for awhile… but that’s not why I haven’t been posting, it’s the reason I have visited your Blogs lately—I think I have caught up thou.


My mind has been in a creative tomb, desire has vanished from my sails; I lay motionless on a flat sea praying for wind.

I’ve been too busy to set down and work myself through it, so I just bagged writing anything all together.

I feel the push to get back to it, so I left work early and going to spend a few hours and see if the muse has come back.

Just being “too” busy is an excuse, and I convince myself it’s a valid one every day.

Hopefully the wind has changed and my sails will be full.

Since you’ve stopped by let me ask you this:

How important is the first paragraph to you, weather its writing or reading?

To me it really doesn’t matter, the whole piece of work needs to be just as good for the book to be good. But I heard a few opinions that it needs to be stellar, so what do you think?

Thx for stopping by and for any comment you might leave.

What'cha ya going to do?

Haven’t been writing "too" much lately, reading has gotten in the way.


I just finished a few Stephen king novels, the stand and under the dome, also I just finished the second book of the hunger games series, in fact about 2 minutes ago and about to start on number 3, mocking jay.

Every time I sit down to revise my work, I find myself longing to read and end up doing so after just a few minutes.

If I ever want to get done I need to stop reading so much, maybe after “mocking jay” I’ll make a goal to finish and set my prize at a new book to read.

The good thing about reading is it helps you see what to do or not to do… it gives inspiration and hope when you read something that is horrible and you’re sure your doing better. It gives you a sense of how a good book should feel, read, grow and finish.

The bad thing about reading is how much time it takes up—time that I have very little to spare. Also it begins this deep yearning to read more, find that next great adventure, soon you’re reading and not writing.

I guess after this rant what I am trying to get at is this: how do you separate your writing time and reading time?

One other question that just popped into my head, if you don’t mind answering, is this: is there such a thing as to much tragedy in a book you like to read. I hear more and more you need to be a sadist when it comes to writing, make you chars suffer.

Now I do agree there needs to be hardships, but there must be jubilation as well, at least enough the reader can relax and connect to the true sense of the characters.

Thx for any comment you might leave. I just can’t post that often, normally I only post when I really need help. I don’t want to bore the wonderful readers of this blog with trivial stuff—stuff I normally write on a daily basis.

Who would like my book?

Lately I’ve been wondering if my book will entertain readers the way it does me.


I mean when it really comes down to it, I don’t know, I guess I will never know… unless I get published and my book sells millions of copies.

For you unpublished writers out there, what keeps you writing? What do you see in your work that makes it all worth doing?

Sure I get the whole “I have to write” mentality, because I suffer from that myself.

Do you wonder if your book has what it takes?

If so, what keeps you going?

My book is written to appeal to a very select group of readers… and that scares me.

All I can hope for is there are a ton of people who like what I like or my writing career will be short lived.

Do you ever feel this way, or do you push on with the hope your work is destine for greatness?

I have no doubt I will complete my book and pursue it to be published until I die. But sometimes I wonder if it really has what it takes to appeal to enough people to be a success.

I really don’t know what I am trying to get at, but hopefully you get the point… and any comment you might leave will help—thx.

I hate it...

I hate it when a book just ends—like, just stops, and you have to wait until the next book to hopefully get a solid conclusion.


But after the second book… in let’s say a 4 book series, you find the second book just stops, no conclusion at all, no satisfying end of any kind, no-doubt you’re going to have to wait clear to the end of the last book to hopefully receive the ending that made reading 4 books worthwhile.

No matter what, I feel it is vital to give the reader a bone and end the book in some way… have some closer and then open the dramatic beginning for the next book, what’s so wrong with that?

The more series I read the more I see this happening, I don’t care what the reason is, give me something at the end so I feel I spent my time doing something constructive… who wants to wait until the next book just to get some small piece of closer or satisfaction.

Am I alone here? What do you think? ... What else really bugs you about—whatever?

Thx for any comment you might leave!!

Yo...

Thx for stopping by... my answers are in ( )

If you ever… I mean, when you get published—who will be the first or most important person you give the first copy to? (That’s a hard one, probably my dad, since my wife will have read it before it goes to the publisher.)


What is your preference… past or present tense? In reading or writing. (past tense for me in both, but I can handle it in what I read if the story works.)

Read any good books lately? (Stephen King’s Cell... the hunger games 1 through 2, can't remeber her name and too lazy to get up and check.)

It’s been awhile

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It’s been awhile since I’ve posted anything, the main reason is I have been spinning my wheels. The worst part about revising your work is the feeling of work sets in hard and heavy. It’s like reading the same book, or watching the same movie over and over, or it’s like going to work doing the same thing every day and not getting the joy of creating something new and fresh.


I really appreciate all your support; it has helped me more than I can say.

I am making progress; it’s just slow and tedious.

The only way to learn is by doing, hopefully it will show in my final draft… which seems a life time away.

It’s sad when you would rather mow the lawn than write.

I need to find a way to make revision fun. During the first draft I could pump out 10 to 15 pages easily, now it might take a whole night to do one page of revision.

Don’t want to sound like a wimp, it just helps to get it out.

I know you all know what I am talking about.

Thx for any comment you might leave, your advice lifts me up.

Cover to cover.

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I just finished reading my book from cover to cover. I skipped a lot a things that needed fixing, I just wanted to get a sense for what I have done, where it was going, how I got there, did it move, did it feel and most of all was it worth trying to fix.

Without a doubt I feel it is worth trying to make flow and fit together to make an adequate book. For awhile there I was thinking it wasn’t worth the effort. I was worried I was letting the love for my story and characters were holding me to a failed idea.

Thankfully now I see I need to fully invest myself in this book. I see it is what I wanted it to be—I just need to trim the edges and eliminate the parasites dragging my story down.

I was very surprised to read some of the material I have composed, it was quite well, and is proof the muse does exist. I couldn’t compose stuff like that on my own. When I get in the zone it’s this out of body experience, where I experience a journey from who knows where.

I love seeing the story as I write, I just hate trying to weed out the normally me parts.

Thx so much for your comments, your help has led me down a road to where I see my goal clearly. A place where I know i belong.

Soon I’ll be starting the dreaded synopsis. It’s pretty sad when you have to sell a 300+ page book in three paragraphs.

I am afraid my learning curve just hit a big bend.

thx for any comment you might leave...

Story…

I find I struggle to write about story, the mundane part that exists between action, the part that connects the reader to the characters, the part that must be interesting and detrimental to world building, to give the reader a true sense of being there.

It’s a riddle I hope to unlock, without it my book is doomed to fail.

While reading my book I realize there has to be more than action and strife, there must be more, something subtle to draw the reader in.

I always thought I was doing that, but it seems I was just filling space until the next action scene.

How do you write about life, things your characters do while growing individually and collectively at the same time?

This might be a question no one can answer for me, but any thoughts might help me see the light.

I feel growth as a group of characters is vital to my story… hell for that matter any story really.

The little things like school, chores, work or anything like that I fail to make it interesting. These things must be there so the reader wants to be a part of it—live it—imagine it.

Like the harry potter books, Hogwarts was the main reason readers loved those books… well in my mind at least. It was a place we all could connect with and wish we could live it… everyone who was a fan thought about going to a magical school—our minds were filled with possibilities.

I hope I can find away to make it work, or my debut as an aspiring author will be short lived.

Finally

Finally I have found my muse…

I took many hours composing horrible if not putrid prose, but I think I have overcome this for now.

I forgot how wonderful it is to write when the words flow and the story jumps from your mind in waves of splendor. Where you are a mere conduit for two mediums to transfer data, ending in a wondrous moment in time, where you start to believe in prophesy.

I hope this problem is gone for good, thou I doubt it. One thing I have learned is writing opens up our deepest fears, and tears at our soul. I begin to wonder at what point I will accept my writing for what it is and set my mind free to explore writing at its core, without fear, self-doubt, apprehension or any negative side effects.

If that day ever comes true… I don’t know if I could handle it.



Thx for all your support. I hope you never experience anything closely resembling this in your life.

All aboard for the emotional roller coaster that is writing…

Feelings

I am feeling lost every time I try and write... this is a different feeling than the ones I have had before.

Everything feels weak. I tried not to write for a week, and it has hurt rather than helped.

It’s hard to describe, it’s like trying to cook but everything looks horrible and tastes even worse. I've always been able to see the silver lining in what I do, but I just can't seem to get the groove back.


Maybe I am just trying too hard. Maybe I should rest longer than a week.

Or maybe I should do just the opposite and just write my way out.

I have felt lost before and even felt like a hack… but I always got joy from writing even if I felt it didn’t work.

Rest assured I will never quit, but I hope this ends soon.

I really don’t know if I am asking anything specific—more or less I guess I am just sharing, praying for a sign… a glimmer… anything to jump start my brain back to the love of writing regardless of the outcome.

Sorry if you read this all and had to endure it. This is not who I am… maybe that’s why it digs so deep. I have never felt self-doubt about anything (other than about my writing)—now I am swimming in it.

Thx

Redo

Ok, this probably isn't perfect but it felt better to me... at least good enough I can move on with my story. If you read my last one plz tell me what you think.


I never realized I am such a needy person. With your help maybe I can see the flaws in my work and move past them.
Thx again...





The wagon came to a halt. Tristan opened his eyes surprised he was able to fall asleep. The ride was very uncomfortable, and seemed to last a lifetime. He crawled out aching all over. He stretched and turned. One glimpse of the massive castle cleared his mind and rid his body of pain.


He leaned back so far trying to see the many turrets and balconies, he about tipped over backwards. The thousands of windows shimmered in the setting sun; the white granite structure seemed to glow. Just standing in the shadow of this mammoth structure made him fell insignificant. Massive doublewide wooden doors were larger than any doors he had ever seen, a six horse team pulling a wagon could pass through easily. If gods lived on earth this would be their home, Tristan thought.

Turning in a circle he took in every detail around the castle, he couldn’t stop smiling it was an amazing sight to behold. The round base of the castle had a massive cobblestone road surrounding it, the endless line of wagons and thousands student milling around fit with plenty of room to spare. Countless streets took off in every direction like spokes a wagon wheel.

He counted six armories, seven blacksmith shops, more horse paddocks that he could count. He tried to look at it all but it was quite overwhelming, there were seamstress shops, cooking pits, archery shops, candle makers, mason workshops. He marveled in the sounds echoing around him. The clopping hooves mixed with the tinking of chisels and the hammering of steel.

He felt stupid realizing this was a huge city not just a training center. This place dwarfed the forts he had grown up in. He tried to envision how many forts would fit in this city; it boggled the mind, his best guess maybe one hundred or even more.

The city was very clean and the smell of it was intoxicating. Tristan took a deep breath drinking in the aroma of roasting meat mingled with leather highlighted with the sweet scent of flowers, the slight hint of pine from the surrounding mountains swirled all the smells together making his mouth water.

Tristan was amazed by all the massive torches on buildings and down roads illuminating every nook and cranny. Ornate brass fittings decorated every building giving the real sense of wealth. It was a wondrous place to be, he thought. Tall archer towers poked above the roof tops of smaller structures in every direction he looked.

A loud voice snapped him back to reality. “Line up men” yelled a large boy standing in front of his wagon wearing a black leather suit.

 
 
Thx for any comment you might leave, your advice will not be wasted or over looked.

Disconnected

Lately I have second guessed everything I have written. I want to know it this description is too much. Also can you see it, when you read it does it come across right?

This is a key setting in my story and I want to get it right, and any advice will help. Thx

Don't be afraid to leave negative comments... I can take it--any comment is better than no comment.






The wagon came to a halt. Tristan opened his eyes feeling stiff and sore. Pale sunlight and the orange glow of torches filled his vision. The group of students climbed out and stretched their legs. Tristan looked around in awe. Turning in a circle he took in every detail, he couldn’t stop smiling it was an amazing sight to behold. The first thing to grab his attention was the massive tubular castle that seemed to stretch to the heavens. He leaned his head back so far trying to see the many turrets and balconies, he about tipped over backwards. The thousands of windows shimmered in the setting sun; the white granite structure seemed to glow. Massive doublewide wooden doors were larger than any doors he had ever seen, a six horse team pulling a wagon could pass through easily. If gods lived on earth this would be their home, Tristan thought.

The round base of the castle had a massive cobblestone road surrounding it, the endless line of wagons and thousands student milling around fit with plenty of room to spare. Countless streets took off in every direction like spokes a wagon wheel. He counted six armories, seven blacksmith shops, more horse paddocks that he could count. He tried to look at it all but it was quite overwhelming, there were seamstress shops, cooking pits, archery shops, candle makers, mason workshops. He marveled in the sounds echoing around him. The clopping hooves mixed with the tinking of chisels and the hammering of steel. He realized this was a huge city not just a training center. This place dwarfed the forts he had grown up in. He tried to envision how many forts would fit in this city; it boggled the mind, his best guess maybe one hundred or even more. The city was very clean and the smell of it was intoxicating, roasting of meat mingled with the smell of leather and sweet scent of flowers swirled through the light pine scented breeze. Massive torches on buildings and down roads illuminated every nook and cranny. Ornate brass fittings decorated every building giving the real sense of wealth. It was a wondrous place to be, he thought. Tall archer towers poked above the roof tops of smaller structures in every direction he looked.

A loud voice snapped him back to reality. “Line up men” yelled a large boy standing in front of his wagon wearing a black leather suit.



thx for any comment you might leave...

Just wrote this... what ya think?

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I have no doubt I have some grammar problems. But when you read this do you get a sense of it? Thx.


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It’s a hard life...

Every day I learn the life of a struggling author is a hard one. It would be wonderful to know what your doing is good. It would be wonderful to know there is an audience for what you’re doing. It would be wonderful to know I have a future in writing.

The more I read about how to write, the more I get confused… i.e. plot, pace, tense, arcs and of course good true to life dialog.

I have come to the conclusion, to keep on keeping on. I am going to write the way I write regardless what the “experts” say. It has hurt my craft more than it has helped.

I was just wondering how you all, fight through the hard life as a writer?

What keeps you composing and editing and revising?

And what is the best piece of advice that has helped your writing?

Thx for any comment you might leave.

Theme

Thx for the help lately… The names offered and your thoughts on the names I submitted helped a TON.


I have well over 100k words to cut down to around 85k and make fit smoothly, if that is possible.

The biggest issue I am having is seeing what the big picture is, I have not really thought about it until now. That’s a real hard question to answer. I am trying to understand it better so I can bring it out in my second ‘full’ edit.

Have you ever read a book that you really didn’t know what the “theme” of the story was, yet you still loved it?

And when do you think the reader should really get what the “theme” is?

In the last chapter, or the moment the reader closes the book after completion and pounders about it?

Should the “theme” be foreseeable, and easily noticeable…

Or should it be sneaky and kind of subconsciously transmitted to the reader?

Thx…

I need a name!

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I need a name of a magical secret society…

Blood and Bones

Earth and Blood

The Union of the Pyramid

The faceless

The founders

Blood and ashes

The flame work

Blood Covenant

The regime

Soul Takers

Soulless

Any ideas--just throw them out there… thx

Details

My MC has come up with a brilliant idea to overcome a big obstacle… my question is this: when you’re reading a book would you prefer to be filled in on the idea before it is put into action, or would you like to find out as it happens?

Maybe I should just allude to the plan but not divulge all the details—so far I am torn between both ways. I think by holding back the essentials it adds tense to what’s about to come…

What do you think?

Thx for any comment you might leave...

How do you fight the writing woes?

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Trying to tie up loose ends… and let me tell you—it is hard.

Does it ever get easy to edit your manuscript? Man I feel like I should start over. My last part of my book is solid--well at least I feel that way about it now—who knows how I will feel in 3 weeks.

Do you ever stop growing as a writer that when you go back your work seems adequate—I sure hope so?

I guess if it were easy everyone would have a book published, I guess I should be happy to see weak points in my writing.

This used to be a common theme of mine a while back, sorry for bringing it up again. But it helps to hear what you fine people have to say. Your comments have helped a great deal so far, thx.

I just don’t think I could manage to start over, or just scrape the work and start something fresh… I guess it’s just part of the game.

Give this a once over.

Please give it a read and tell me what ya think. Good, bad, poor or just plain horrible. Also does this make you want to read more? thx



 
 
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Does this do anything for you?

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Please give this a read and tell me if this works for you at all, does it come through, or is it lame.
Thx...


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500 follower give away...

A fellow bloger: Megan Rebekah, on her blog -The Write Stuff-. is giveing some great stuff away, beacuase she has reached 500 followeres. so please go here and join to win some awesome prises.


thx for your support.

Scenes...

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What should a scene have in it?




What sets a scene for you, what can a writer do to really make you part of the scene?



Like the wind blowing through his hair, or the smell of decaying plants, or the flicker of lightning in the distance, or the rough texture of the stone floor beneath his feet…



What really makes it happen for you, what makes reading a book feel real to you?





Thx for any comment you might leave… please feel free to add your favorite scene one you try and emulate one that you try and live up to when you write.


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What a Chapter Needs...

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Let’s discuss what a chapter needs or should have in it to be considered a good chapter, in your opinion that is.




Should a chapter have a point or should it be just spaced out, so your reader has a place to stop?



Should it start with tense and end with a resolution and another beginning of tense?



Should every chapter have a plot point?



What is the ideal length for a chapter, such as page length that is?



And should a chapter have multiple scenes or just one, so the reader can focus clearly on what’s going on? Or does it not matter?





Thx just a few questions I was wondering how others would answer…

Word pronouncement…

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If a character’s name is hard to pronounce, does that make it harder to connect to him/her?


And in a related subject, if a place or object is hard to pronounce does it have the same effect?

Thx for reading and any comment you might leave…

Man did I really write this?

Have you ever read what you have written and said to yourself, “man did I really write this crap?”

I just finished about 6 hours of writing and decided to read a few chapters in the middle of my book, just to get a better idea of how to complete the ending. Man was I disappointed, I couldn’t believe how bad some of it was… how disheartening.

Have you ever had this happen to you?

The bad part is I don’t know if I can fix it. It kind of left me feeling lost or overwhelmed. I hope once I am 100% complete, I can go back and read it from cover to cover and feel better about it than I do now.

I just have this overwhelming feeling I need to start from scratch. 81k words of poorly written work can do that to you. I just feel it would be easier to write it better from word one, than trying to fix that mess.

I just don’t think I can do it all over again. The rush of nearly completing my first draft that I was feeling just hours before has vanished… wow I hope I feel better in the morning—I hope that I can forget this and move on—I just hope.

Thx for any comment you might leave—even though I have been here before… any advice helps heal the wounds of feeling inept.

Five Things...

So I do not normally partake in things like this but since I was (kind of) tagged by Jeff I figured I would do it.




Where were you five years ago?



1) Doing the same job, as I am now…

2) Dreaming of doing something with my life.

3) Trying to find out who I was.

4) Trying to be a better father and husband.

5) Hating what I did for a living and cursing every day of my life.



Where would you like to be five years from now?



1) Writing my 4rth and final book of my series.

2) Helping others become writers.

3) Start my own publishing house.

4) Doing something I love to do, not work in a field I hate.

5) Sitting on a beach under an umbrella composing under the setting sun.



What is/was on your to do list today?



1) Write…

2) Think about writing…

3) Read a few chapters.

4) Work out on P90x

5) Try and watch less the 2 hours of TV



What five snacks do you enjoy? (if diet didn’t matter)



1) Benut butter and honey on toast.

2) Loads of bacon

3) carrot cake with cream chesses icing

4) Glazed doughnuts

5) Crunchy Cheetos



What five things would you do if you were a billionaire?



1) Buy every car I ever wanted

2) Take care of friends and family financially.

3) Open my own publishing house.

4) Travel the world on my private jet…

5) help out struggling authors… authors who deserve help that is, and help them find the path to being published.

If you read this, and want to do it yourself… consider yourself TAGGED and get-err-done.

Thx for reading and any comment you might leave...

When to let people read your novel...

Revision stages…


What stage of the revision process do you give out copies for people to read?

My stages… or at least my plan so far goes like this: 1: First draft 2: story revision 3: complete grammar edit 4: then let people read the work 5: process the critics and do one final rewrite and edit.



And one more question: I have to come up with a few names, hopefully names that roll off the tongue and or catchy. Names for creatures such as these: Half-man half-scorpion and a half-man half-spider, like the body of the creature and the torso of a human.

Edit: (Names of the entire species not specific character names... thx)
Thx for your time and any response you might leave…

Advice to a beginning writer...

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What is the best advice to a beginning writer you could offer?


Mine would be this: once you start to write, just write… don’t get bogged down with research or dissecting your structure or worry about anything.

Just write and let the rush of starting something new push you onward. There will always be time to go back and pick apart what you have done. If you have to, keep notes of names places and scenes for references—but don’t stop composing to read what you have done until you’re DONE, or the rush will leave you behind scratching your head, or the feeling of self-doubt will creep in and the overwhelming feeling will make you feel inadequate…

Also don’t worry about word count it will come and it will all work out.

That about sums it up for me, I hope you write and make millions… best of luck!

Thx for reading and any comment you might leave.

Climax…

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Have you read a great book… well a book that you thought was great until the Climax?

Would you read another book that particular author wrote, if the climax of the previous book sucked?



On the opposite end of the spectrum:

Have you read a slow almost boring book and the climax blew you away?



One last question: what makes a good climax (in a book) for you?



My story is moving well, I am not sure where to end it now. Its funny my whole experience of writing up to this point, was how was I going to get to 75k words… and now, it’s all about how I am going to stop shot of 90k. It blows me away how fast it builds up after 60k word count.

So if anyone out there is worried how they well ever get to 70+ thousand words… trust me don’t worry about it, just write and it will come. Don’t give up or feel overwhelmed, just sit down and push forward.

Kind of shows how ignorant I am and was.

Thx for reading or any comment you might leave.

Biggest Fear...

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What’s your biggest fear when it comes to writing? Maybe a better way to put it is, what fears do you have when people read your work?




I think my fear of not being understood, makes me describe too much. Every time the first thing I ask a person that has read my work is, did it make sense… then I ask what parts did you hate or bore you?



Thx for reading and any response you might leave.

Pushing though...

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I have recently been very disheartened with my writing… every sentence feels fake and just wrong somehow.

I keep thinking it’s going to get better but it hasn’t yet. I know what I want to say I just can’t get into a flow—into the grove if you will. I am feeling trapped and I don’t know why… this is a new experience for me. All I am trying to do is push through it and hopefully I come out the other side better than when I went in.

Has this ever happened to you and what did you do.

Authors Guide

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Ok I am going to share all the info I have gathered on the web about writing… I hope it helps at least one person, if so that’s all I can ask for.

Thx for reading hope it helps.



First off, are links about formatting your novel and query letter and some examples of query letters… hope it helps.


Her site blog rocks… much more than formatting, tons and tons of information here..

http://kayedacus.com/2007/05/23/manuscript-101-introduction-basic-manuscript-format/

go here for full list of what her site offers... you won't regret it.
http://kayedacus.com/writing-series-index/


Next: How to Format an Unpublished Novel in Word 2007

http://www.ehow.com/how_4841027_format-unpublished-novel-word.html


Next: a great site on formatting and everything else you would like to know…

http://www.charlottedillon.com/ManuscriptPreparation.html




Ok----enough on formatting next is query letters.

This is a good site… read all her post on query letters, it will help a ton.

http://bookendslitagency.blogspot.com/search/label/query%20letters


Next: my favorite agent blog… and my first choice of an agent if I ever get so lucky. Her site offers sample queries, and more about "everything" than I can list…

http://pubrants.blogspot.com/2006/08/queriesan-inside-scoop-sherry-thomass.html


All post on queries:

http://pubrants.blogspot.com/search/label/queries


Query help…

http://queryshark.blogspot.com/


Good info specifically on queries…

http://querytracker.blogspot.com/



Ok next would be good editors:

Great editor… this is her personal blog, not sure if she is looking for books to edit. But she is too good not to mention...
http://creativeartsanonymous.blogspot.com/



I love this editor… she specializes in Developmental Editing and Query Letter Critiques…

http://www.kristenweber.com/index.html



Pro editor… her site is full of wonderful advice for writers, its practically endless supply of information.

http://victoriamixon.com/getting-your-manuscript-edited/





Hope it helps someone… thx for reading and any response you might leave.

Making Decisions

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First off, after reading countless agent/publisher blogs, I had decided to have a word count of around 80k. This is the ideal length of work for a first time author in my genre (historical fantasy)

Now that I am nearing the end of my first draft, and I see clearly that it will be close to 95k words. If I end the book where it transitions best into the next book. (probably 4 books)

My question is this: would you change the ending of your book to fit it into a word count? Even thou I am writing 4 books and supposedly can end it where I see fit… I want to end the book satisfactorily for my readers. So they get fulfilled by reading my book, not thinking "that’s it… I have to wait till the next book to find out!!!"

Or would you end the book where you decided to in the first place and forget word count?

Or would you end the book where you wanted and just cut the word count from previous chapters?



Thx and input will be valuable.

Happiness

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What would make you the happiest in life?

Mine would include: never have to worry about money ever again, second would be: to have a chief cook all my meals, third would be: to make a GOOD living at writing.

polishing your manuscript?

Second to last edit… what or how do you do it? What is you routine? What order do you edit in?


In so many words; I am trying to decide the best way to edit my rewrite. I am just trying to get advice from others on what has worked for you, such as editing for scenes first, and then breathe life into stale dialog, then poorly written description and so on.

What would be your best advice on polishing your hopefully finished manuscript?

Thx for reading and any response you might leave.

Blog and ping
Blog and ping

I need your opinion!!

I need your opinion!!




I was reading my online writing workshop material, and it said don’t bother with the trials on the quest, just get to the point…

This has confused me a little… I think experiencing problems and failing or overcoming them, is key to building the character in the readers mind. Now, I love to see the MC struggle and fight to get to where he/she is going. I write things that shape the character; I don’t just have “FILLER”…

I am wondering if you fine readers agree with this. I haven’t written enough or read enough to get a clear idea.

So my main question and you can add whatever you see fit to it, is this: when you read a book do you hate to follow the main character on a journey, with lots of challenges, or do you prefer cut and dry reading that just gets to the point?


Or maybe I am missing the point that is trying to be made, maybe its all about the issue of trial and error and how that dosen't work well in a novel, everything should move the story forward, not try and try again type of challenges. Because all my challenges move everything forward, ie--plot, char growth... thx just felt confuse by this advice.



Thx and hope I didn’t confuse you all…

What is the most frustrating thing about writing for you?

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For me, it’s not being able to know if what I am writing is coming across the way it should to the reader. Is the way I form my sentences making the reader see the story and not the words. I just hate not being able to judge my work like I can others. I know if I read a book, i can tell if it is good or not, what made sense, what kept me reading… but with my own work I see what I know is coming, I see what it should be not what it is… so that’s what frustrates me the most.

What frustrates you?

Why?

What makes reading your first choice of entertainment?

Why do you choose to coz up with a book though hundreds of pages?

Why do you love to read?

What makes a book so remember able you read it over and over, and buy it for friends and family?

One last question: what is the worst thing (i.e. grammar, flow, it’s boring, or weak characters ext… ext...) in a book that you let go and kept reading to the end?

Just trying to get some outside points of view… thx for any response you might leave.

The Rush of Writing.

The Rush Of Writing.


I am on the last part of my first-draft, roughly 50 pages left. I have just started to write about my climax and let me to you… I am feeling a rush--a rush I haven’t felt since I realized I could write a novel.

It feels so amazing—so wonderful… the words can’t be typed fast enough; the visualization is so vivid, I am part of the story.

I hope anyone who has begun the journey—the adventure of becoming a writer. Gets to feel this; gets to experience this—this nearly indescribable experience. If I can convey this in my writing… even to the slightest degree, my hope of being publish just became that more realistic.



What have been your experiences that you would be willing to share?


If there is anything I can do to help you in anyway… like reading manuscripts, helping you find answers, needing someone to talk to… please feel free to send me an email.

Thx

Describing people what do you prefer...?

Describing people what do you prefer...?




When describing characters I fall into three categories, which do you prefer or does it matter or would you use all three?

The generalizing description: The popular boy flaunted his perfect complexion and matching wardrobe, and spoke in a mocking tone.

Or

Small details added in: The tall brown haired boy was as popular as the expensive clothes he wore, tones of high-society played in his mocking voice.

Then really detailed: The wavy brown haired boy looked down on any student not wearing the latest fashion trend. Trends he normally set, his popularity made him practically royalty. His pompous attitude cut to the bone with his educated vocabulary.



When I introduce a character I typically go into one of these templates. I normally don’t reflect on witch one that would have worked best until my second rewrite. I was just wondering what one (if any) you found best, or related best to you?

Thx for reading and any comment you might leave…

Does Vernacular Matter?

Does Vernacular Matter?


My question to readers and writers out there is this:

If a character is Russian, French, Scottish… well you get the idea. Does that character need to speak with an accent, therefore the writer needs to write the dialog in that accent?

Or would you get the idea of what the author means by changing just a few key words: like this.

“Aye there lad, you have learned all you can from me.” Is Aye and Lad sufficient to plant the rest of the accent in your mind?

Or

“Wee, I agree with you, say ‘ello to your mot'er when you see her.”

Or

“Please Comrade, don’t kill me… I  h‘ave your money you vant in car.”

Or should I just say: he said in a Scottish, Russian, French accent. And leave out any attempt to show dialect.

Thx for any advice you might leave… or any sample you might share.

I know you can.

Why does writing have to fill the writer with an overwhelming feeling of self-doubt? I know 90% of the time my story is good, its original (mostly) it's intriguing... and most of all it would make a damn good book.



But of course that 10% of the time I think I am wasting my time, no way my book will ever be published, I don't know how to write, this is too much work, this is out of my league, I am sick of sitting in front of my computer... I should just stop and save myself from being embarrassed.


I know everyone who has tried to write any piece of work has felt these feelings. If you stop and listen to them you'll never make it... and that's a guarantee.


Keep your head down and keep writing, if you need help get it after your first draft is done, if you don't know the exact terminology or proper procedures of what you main char does for a living... make it up and fix it later. If you stop and lament on what you don't know you'll never get done... that's a guarantee.


Keep writing; keep growing, keep learning. Once you have finished your first draft, go back and make it work. Never give up, never listen to that self-doubt.


I hope you all find the desire to finish your manuscripts, I hope you all find success. Thx for all the support you have shown me.


There is one guarantee I can make, and that is I will finish my book. I will make it the best I can, and I’ll get all the help I need to make sure it is.


If you have anything to share about the writing process please do so.


Thx for reading, and for any comment you might leave.

Thx everyone...

First of all thx to everyone who leaves comments, it helps so much.


A few things I wanted to ask you very savvy people was this: How long have you worked at being a writer? (I just started to write on 1-19-09, first attempt at writing anything. 58k words of my rough draft since then, with too many rewrites and new beginnings to mention.)

How many manuscripts have you written before you felt what you have written was actually good? (I think my WIP, is pretty damn good, maybe 3 more rewrites and with the help of a damn good editor Shakespeare; I might actually have something)

Once you hit the big time, (millions of copies sold) will you ever take time to help out unpublished authors, like giving; advice, blubs, readings, tips on writing … and anything else you wish you had someone to ask that has been there?
(Absolutely I will I might even offer free school/classes for authors who show promise... and for the right ones I will help through the whole publishing process.)

Thx for reading and any comment you might leave… Of course my answers are in ( ) thx.

Ok, 7 things you didn't know about me.

Noelle Nolan Has asked me to pass it on... Writing 7 things you didn't know about me. If you read this and want to do the same thing then so be it, but i won't ask you to do it.


1: I love being bored, makes the days last longer... they fly by way to fast.



2: I love chick flicks... Ghost, As good as it gets, What Women Want, Titanic... the list goes on and on.


3: I don't like to fight, but i will in a sec if you cross me.


4: i stop and help people broken down on the side of the road all the time -- as long as your a women or the elderly... if you’re a dude you’re on your own.


5: I love the outdoors; well at least for about 7 days then I can't wait to get back home...


6: If you're my friend I got your back no matter what....


7: From 1974 till 2009 I had only read two books, and that is for real... no joke. From Jan 2009 to now, I have read 46 books, the average book length is 600 pages, all most all fiction... I love fiction especially fantasy...



Thx, pass it on if you will.
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Two pages in the middle of my book.

Give this a read and tell me what you think. And plz be honest... I just want to make sure it’s clear and interesting. Can you visualize it?


Thx so much all. I will be deleting this soon, I hate leaving stuff out there too long.






“To arms… to arms” Ryan yelled staggering to his feet.




His friends sat up, looking confused. The students around the campfire barely looked up at him.


“To arms” yelled Ryan kicking the students around him “there are Vampires on their way here. They’ll be on top of us in mere moments.”


“How do you know, did you see them?” Travis asked getting to his feet.


Most of the students jumped to their feet, looking to Ryan for instructions. The overwhelming feeling to stoke the fire filled Ryan’s mind.


“Throw anything that will burn onto the fire.” Ryan yelled


Within seconds Ryan had to step back because of the immense heat radiating off the now massive inferno.


“Group up on me.” Yelled Ryan


Like they were back in class, every student formed up lines on Ryan’s left and right.


“Stager formations” Ryan yelled “use the fire to guard our backs.”


Seamlessly students began to separate, forming teeth like lines curving around the fire.


“When they come, we must not break ranks. We must not surrender our position from around the fire. Hopefully the high flame will stop them from swooping down on us, if we run were dead.” Ryan shouted “They will be coming from this direction” he pointed directly ahead of them.


He looked through the star filled sky for any dark figures approaching. Light from the fire flickered on the surrounding trees, shadows of students danced on the dirt laden ground. Smoke filled his nostrils, making his eyes water. Anticipation sent chills down his spine.


Three dark shapes became visible outlined against the night sky. Minutes felt like hours. The beating of wings grew closer. The dark shapes flew into the fire light revealing demonic yellow eyes and long teeth that reflected the fire like knives jutting out of their skulls. With a loud screech the Vampires dropped the large fur balls they were carrying. Ryan’s heart skipped a beat as the large balls of fur opened up into three werewolves falling to the ground. They looked massive at least 7 ft tall. Their bodies were covered in thick black hair. Long arms and legs ended in razor sharp claws. Massive wolf like heads and vampire like eyes sent fear flooding through Ryan. The instant the werewolves hit the ground perception of time went from slow to extremely fast.


“Hold your ground” Ryan shouted


The look of fear shown on every students face, but no one gave signs of fleeing. The Vampires swooped in but the flames kept them at bay. The Werewolves were thundering towards them on four legs covering ground faster than a horse could have. In a matter of second they would meet.


“Left and right flanks push up.” Shouted Ryan


On his command the students on the flanks moved up to engage the werewolves running towards them. Ryan felt confident that the slight curve to the staggered formation of students would be the best defense from the onslaught.


“Center brace for impact” Ryan yelled.


Ryan and the soldiers in the middle bent low and held their weapons out with stiff arms to keep the impact away from their bodies. WHAM the werewolf slammed into the middle group so violently it rippled through the group of students like a shockwave. Ryan stabbed continuously as he was knocked backwards from the impact. Several students around him slashed and stabbed the werewolf anywhere their blades could reach. The students being low to the ground sent the werewolf flying over head. It latched onto one of the students head as it flew into the raging fire taking the student with it. Ryan closed his mind to the loss and turned to help the other students.



thx

Ok... Sorry, couldn't wait to post this.

Hopefully this is my last revision of the first page. (Except maybe my wife and a few others doing a Grammar syntax edit.)

I don't know why it didn't write it this way to begin with. His dreams play a big role in the story, and I hope it helps to clarify a few things before I get into the action. Also what his dream showed him will come later, when it’s more relevant. Well here it is; I hope it is better! If not I’ll do it again... until it is.

This is the way it felt right to me, I just couldn't see it before. Thx Steph and others your help has brought me light years further than I would have gotten alone.

I am certain there are a lot of punctuation mistakes, but my wife or daughter won't do it until I am positive this is the last revision... well at lest the last one until I finish the book. plz don't spare my feelings, I know Steph won't and I count on it...

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First Page Revision of the Revised, ha-ha.

I you would plz, read the page and let me know if I am heading in the right direction. Are you less confused? And would you to turn the page out of desire to find out more? not out of pity?


Thx for everything…

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Second Page.

Here is the second page. I am sorry for pestering you. After this one I will leave ya alone for a bit, I promise.


Thx again, same rules apply.



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thx for all the help.

Revised first page

See if this flows better. Let me know if you would turn the page. If you wouldn't turn the page was it better than the first draft of page one? Thx again. and if you see any spots that could be better please let me know.

(small tweeks after posting)





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The First Page Of My Book...

I would like you to read my first page, plz tear it apart. Let me know what you think, is it good or bad? and plz don't spare my feelings.


I know the grammar needs help, I am still learning that part. My wife takes care of that edit for me. But to get an idea of my first page by other people; will help me decide what works with other pages that I am going to write.

If you don't mind plz answer these questions after any comment you want to leave besides these.

1: did the start intrigue you, or was it confusing?

2: did reading the first page make you want to read the second one?

3: did it read easy or did it seem choppy?

4: plz rate it 1 - 10 10 being the highest. (remember my feeling can't be hurt)
Thx for your time and support. This will help more than you know. Well here it is.



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Thx for your time.

What to do?

I am starting to sound like a broken record. I am going to continue with this topic even if you read this and shake your head at my repetition. In truth is has one big change to the past related topic, on re-writes… well to me it does, we shall see what you think.


Let’s get the party started.

I spent 2 hours writing the other night, and a light bulb went on in my head. The perfect start and progression of my book flashed before my eyes… I tried to ignore the epiphany and continue with my book because I was so close to completing my first draft.

No matter how hard I tried to ignore this insight to my story, commenter’s voices went through my head, telling me always do what’s right for the story, anything that make the story better you must do. Do your best and take pride in what you do, never cheat your book by being lazy…

So I have decided to do a complete rewrite of my book, starting at ground zero. The plot change and flow of the story will change so drastically from the change, it has to be rewritten. I might be able to use some of my previous book, maybe two chapters. It is very depressing to realize a years’ worth of wok just went down the drain. But I feel this change is vital to the viability of the story, it increases tense, flow, connection to characters, and produces an awesome climax on several different levels.

This was more of a sounding board for me, thx for reading…

If you have you ever experienced this before, answer me this. Was it worth it? And were you able to keep up the motivation to do such a drastic rewrite… Thx for your time any comment you might leave.

BTW: here is the link to the Novel word tracker, the one in the top left corner.

Raise Your Hand if You're Sure...

Last night I lay there thinking and a huge wave of uncertainty engulfed my spirit. I suddenly felt like I was wasting my time trying to write a book. No matter how hard I tried to tell myself it is a work in progress and if it takes me 4 years to lean grammar and the proper writing techniques I need to be a complete writer, then I am Ok with that...


It has taken all day to ride myself of this feeling, it was quite disheartening. What finally brought me back to the world of reality, was one thought.

It really does not matter… that’s right it really does not matter.

If all I accomplish is writing an ok book I can give to friends and family then that is better than not trying at all. If all I accomplish is 400 pages I get to throw in the trash then so be it. I resided myself to know that no matter what happens I am growing, learning, understanding and expanding my intellect and understand of the English word by my actions… What’s wrong with that? Nothing…

I hope if anyone reads this, you take one thing from it… and that would be this.

You are the only one that can give up, you are the only one that can refuse to learn, you are the only one that can finish what you’ve started, you can only strive to be better than you were, you can only keep your head up and have faith in what you’re capable of. You, you, you, you, if you won’t do it, who will. If you give up you’re the only one to blame.

I have been down this road before, and probably will again. If I have learned anything about writing it’s that self-doubt waits to bring you down…

Nothing will ever stop me from believing in myself. I hope you feel the same about yourself, because no one can make you feel that way… except YOU.

Best of luck and thx for your support, I appreciate any comment you might leave…

Special thx goes out to: Steph, Shakespeare , and Carrie Sund… you three pick me up and carry me through the dark. It might sound cheesy but it is true. Your constant support is invaluable. thx

Revision...

How long do you wait before you begin Revising your work?


I read Stephen Kings book "On Writing" and he suggest… no demands you waiting a bare minimum of 6 weeks. He states your story should feel odd and distant, like the work from a strange twin.

In your writing experience what works best for you?

Waiting sound hard, yet makes sense.

It is really hard to read my writing for what it is. I skip across my work without really reading it, because I already know what it says and is going to say...

Thx for reading any advice will help.

Ups and Downs...

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Man writing has so many ups and downs it drives me crazy.

I can't imagine it ever being easy. It makes you feel so wonderful at times with the rush of the story coming through... then suddenly wham... its fads, leaving you feeling lost and wondering why you even started.

So far the biggest issue is finding time to sit down and write. The main issue with writers block has faded and the story is vivid and bursting. But every time I sit down something always goes wrong.

I wish one day I can get a schedule down to allow myself the right amount of time and hopefully the peace to go with it...

Sorry didn't mean to rant, it just kind of when that direction.



On a side note: do you ever change your story for a person or persons you let read and critic your book. If so answer me this:

What if ones says to change one part but leave a different part that another person said to change and vice versa?

And would you change your story drastically based off of your reader’s comments? Or just change the little thing and have faith your story is good the way you envisioned it. Because I know not everyone you have read your book will like it, or see you eye to eye about it.

This might sound like a hard question to answer, but if you have faced this before it should be one you will know what I am talking about. whether or not you can answer it, well thats another question…

Either way thx for reading.

Plz Give This a Read...

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Here is a page in my book where there is a secret to be had. Now the question I have is should I save the info and let the reader find out when the action takes place? Or fill them in now? I was going to fill them in but now I think it should be something for the reader to think about and find out later. Read this little part and tell me 2 things.


First, did this make you want to know more? And would you hold the specifics to the plan until he actually put it into action? Thx for any input you might leave... if you need more of the story to give an opinion plz ask for it.


Gilroy closed his eyes briefly, exhaling his frustrations and continued. “I understand your anger, believe me, from the moment I heard the news I have been racking my brain to find a solution” Gilroy moved to the edge of his seat, his demeanor changed instantly like a child holding a secret. “And I believe I found one.”

The anger filling Ryan vanished. He wanted to make sure he understood him completely before getting too excited.


“An answer to rescuing the students left on the island?” Ryan involuntarily held his breath.


“Yes”


“It’s impossible. The Emperor’s mandate specifically states no ship to ever set sail for those islands for a hundred years. And if any student ever finds their way off the island and the Emperor ever found them, they would be publicly executed.”


“Ahh but there is a way, and the best part is the emperor will order it to be done.” A cunning smile broke on Gilroy’s face.


“How”

Pulled another all nighter.

I decided to take a break, kind of tired but wanted to post this up and ask if you think this setting works.


Now if it sucks, or is not enough, or too much, please tell me. Don’t worry about my feelings; it is more important to learn what works and what doesn't. In my head I already see this, so it will help to get an idea if you can see what I am seeing. Or even if you like it…

"The mass of students worked their way to the ships, under the rapidly fading light. The sun sat half swallowed by the expanse of the ocean. Scattered clouds absorbed the orange glow and appeared to dance like flames in the purple tinged sky. Long shadows of palm trees stretched across the half sand, half grass landscape. The wind gently blew on his neck sending chills erupting in Goosebumps down his back."



I already talked about the ships and where they were and what they looked like. Also I tried to edit this but I am seeing cross eyed, so plz forgive me if there are a lot of mistakes… I know it is hard to judge with it being right in the middle of a subject, but i didn't want to post the whole page. Maybe i should have, either way do your best.
thx


One other question if you wouldn’t mind answering.

My book is set during the Middle Ages, yet I wonder how I should use the dialoged. Such as what kind of terminology I should use for Time, weights and measurements or how true to the area I should be, as far as language or dialect?

I feel I should use semi modern terminology, or commonly used words to help the reader understand or connect to the book easier. What do you think?

Like using hours and minutes instead of sun dials or scaphe dial.

Or measurement in feet and miles instead of digits, stadion, cubit and Schoinion.

You get the idea.

Thx for your time.

I feel good...

I feel good where I am at in life. Sure it could be better, but it could be a lot worse.



I am 49k words into my goal of 84k word novel. My family is healthy and happy; my children do great in school and excel in playing a musical instrument. My job is steady with no sign of slowing, I have been offered to help grow a new business from ground level; if it takes off I’ll be in great shape financially and finally enjoy make a living at what I do.


I just want you to know life is what you make it... thx to everyone who has helped me and continues to give me valuable advice and for allowing me to vent sometimes when I am down... thx all your help IS not wasted.

Life is a journey, never give up never surrender. Have faith in yourself and believe life is in your control and show love to those around you.


Today is a good day.


plz share your thoughts good or bad. I’ll help anyway I can...


Thx again all.

I need help...

Man I thought I was going to be able to handle my daughter when she got older... or at least handle the day boys came knocking on the door.

Well that day has arrived and I handled it poorly. Let’s just say I made an ass out of myself.


My question to all parents or girls that have lived through it is this: how did you handle your daughters through their boy days and keep her out of trouble and keep her mind focused on school and not boys.

The last thing I want to do is force my daughter into a boys arms by saying she can't talk to him or trying to control everything she does and who she does it with...

I know I raised her right, but all teenage girls I have ever know, judge themselves by the attention they get from boys... and that leads to being manipulated. Every teenage boy learns to use that to his advantage to get what he wants and you know what that is...

I realize I am not ready for this and hope I don't make the wrong decisions. And advice from anyone who has been there, or raised a child through the horrible 4 years of high school will help a great deal.



thx for your time.